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    Hi Dean,

    This page gives a breakdown of the cause codes and some of the other info.

    http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/Concept/help.html

    also

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...accident-cards

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    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...al-Cards/page4

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    Thanks Ross that answers a few more questions.

    I am still struggling to interpret the text I will type as written to see if anyone can help.

    E/F (TO) (Engine fire 2nd engine?) Std eng failed and caught fire in air. Pilot stalled A/C (aircraft?) attempting to SE? fly and operate fire extinguisher EO?(Engine take off stage?) to 2 cylinder barrel fractures cause N/K (not known?). 3rd acc of type (accident?) STW Co no blame pilot. AFC Couen.(could this be a rank and name)


    LDG.NF I presume means landing not forced.

    Thanks for your help
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    E/F - engine failure
    A/C - aircraft
    S/E - single engine
    E/O - Engineering Officer
    N/K - not known
    acc - accident
    STW Co is STN Co - Station Commanding Officer
    AFC Couen is AOC Concur - Air Officer Commanding concurs (agrees with previous statements - Ross)
    LDG.NF -Landing not forced

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    Thanks Ross.

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    Cause: 141

    Signal: A64.2/8
    This will be the serial number and date of the Teleprinted Signal or Cypher with brief details reporting the crash, also sometimes known as a 'Casualty Signal'

    After unit box which is 28 OTU their is the number 4

    Group: 93
    The Group which the Unit (28 OTU) belongs to.

    COM: B
    COM = Command & B = Bomber

    A.O: N
    Air Operations - No (Not on Air Operations)

    F.I.N: East
    Usually has either F, or I or N in box, but I don't know meaning.

    K: 5 could this be 5 killed??
    Yes 5 killed

    Stage: LDG N.F Landing?

    The following are in the sections under solo and night.
    OOC ACF DOR ES

    under INST: UCK
    under LINK: HOK
    Under Duty and history: solo C+L training XOK WO16???
    C+L = Circuits and Landings

    In the text section SE EO N/K STW.CO
    N/K = Not Known

    In a large circle 29/9 possibly date??
    Usually next to the narrative, a date 29 Sept relating to the narrative, or when narrative added.

    Under Drome N
    Aerodrome No

    Box next to dawn dusk: L.15
    Cause code Landing 15 = "Forced Landings (After Engine Failure) Failure during take-off or immediately after." Other [besides subsequent error by pilot, which is L14]
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    Thanks Mark for your continued help.

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    Hi all
    Continuing on with my research now I have deciphered the AM 78 and 1180 forms with a great deal of help from Ross and Mark, thanks again. I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the Chorley 1942 entry for Z1107 on the 3/ 1 /1942 the aircraft was being used by 99 squadron and was involved in a Flying Battle and sustained enough damage that the aircraft had to be repaired at either Brooklands itself or a team from Brooklands at RAF Sywell.
    Thanks
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    Hello All
    I have received My uncles service record today and would like help with an abbreviation. I have included the ones I have deciphered if it is relevant.

    1 ACRC- Air Crew Reception Centre

    14 ITW- Initial Training Wing

    67/43 No 1 EAGS ?? reason given as HHH ???

    9(0) AFU - Advanced Flying Unit

    28 OTU- Operational Training Unit

    The 67/43 is a form I presume.The closest I can find is AGS - Air gunner school. He was an Air gunner but I can find no relevance to the E or the reason given as HHH no other section has a reason given.

    Thank you for you help
    Dean.

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    Hi

    EAGS = Elementary Air Gunners School
    (O) AFU - (Observer) Advanced Flying Unit
    OTU = Operational Training Unit

    Malcolm

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    Thanks Malcolm.

    Anyone any idea what the HHH could be for the reason given for joining EAGS (Elementary Air Gunners School).

    Thanks
    Dean

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