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    Default S/L Ambrose May 1944

    Gents
    I have S/L Ambrose flying from Coltishall to Hucknal and back in 1944. I cannot find any matching S/L Ambrose though. There were Henry Ambrose (156922), RAFVR, Charles Francis Ambrose (42583) and Alfred Percy Ambrose (131584), but neither of them was S/L in May 1944. I find H P Ambrose, OC No 263 Sqn, but I wonder if it is a typo for Alfred.
    Anyone has any idea about the proper Ambrose?
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    Default Re: S/L Ambrose May 1944

    More than three

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...se&qnum=&cur=0

    40040 Benjamin Southam AMBROSE
    42583 Charles Francis AMBROSE
    52436 Nigel Jack AMBROSE
    118492 Roland Dean AMBROSE
    122526 Arthur John AMBROSE
    131584 Alfred Percy AMBROSE
    156922 Henry AMBROSE
    168434 Cecil Ralph AMBROSE
    170854 Albert Edward AMBROSE
    171027 Charles Thomas AMBROSE
    196740 Basil George AMBROSE

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    I am afraid neither of them fits. Four became S/Ls, only one during the war, and he was killed before May 1944. I have wondered about the surname being misspelled, but I am not sure how to misspell it.

    40040 Benjamin Southam AMBROSE Flt. Lts. to be Sqn. Ldrs. (temp.). Air Ministry, 16th December, 1941. GD The undermentioned promotions are made with effect from 1st Dec. 1941: — 16 December 1941 Death Date, 12 June 1943.
    42583 Charles Francis AMBROSE Flight Lieutenant to Squadron Leader —1st July 1948 (seniority 1st Aug. 1947) 2 July 1948
    52436 Nigel Jack AMBROSE Flight Lieutenant to Squadron Leader:—1st July 1956. TECHNICAL BRANCH 26 June 1956
    118492 Roland Dean AMBROSE RAFVR GD. To be Plt. Offs. (emergency): — 28th Mar. 1942. 30 June 1942
    122526 Arthur John AMBROSE TECHNICAL BRANCH. Promotion. Flying Officer to Flight Lieutenant (war subs.): —1st July 1946 9 May 1947
    131584 Alfred Percy AMBROSE Fig. Off. to Fit. Lt. (war subs.): — 9th Oct. 1944. 24 October 1944
    156922 Henry AMBROSE GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH. The undermentioned promotions are made :—Flight Lieutenant to Squadron Leader:—1st Oct. 1954. 1 October 1954
    168434 Cecil Ralph AMBROSE The under-mentioned are granted the substantive rank of Flying Officer, 1st Nov. 1947, with the seniorities stated: — 27th Apr. 1946. 2 January 1948
    170854 Albert Edward AMBROSE ADMINISTRATIVE AND SPECIAL DUTIES BRANCH. Confirmation and promotion. Plt. Offs. (prob.) confmd. in appts. and to be Flg. Offs. (war subs.):— 10th Aug. 1944. 22 August 1944
    171027 Charles Thomas AMBROSE Flg. Off to Fit. Lt. (war subs.):—12th Jan. 1946. 5 February 1946
    196740 Basil George AMBROSE GD Confirmation and promotion. Plt. Offs. (prob.) confmd. in appts. and to be Flg. Offs. (war subs.): — 25th Sept. 1945. 23 October 1945
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    Gentlemen
    After some research and a bit of enlightenment, I have concluded that the S/L Ambrose I am looking for is 42583 Charles Francis AMBROSE DFC. He was promoted to Flt Lt (war subs.) on 24th Feb. 1942, and transferred to reserve still as Flt Lt on 10th July 1945. He raised ranks to Squadron Leader only on 1st July 1948. In May 1944 he was a staff officer with No 53 OTU at Kirton-in-Lindsey. Apparently he must have had an Actg rank at the time, though I find it interesting that for more than 3 years he was not appointed Sqn Ldr.
    Now the question. Did anyone hear about his log books? He had plenty of children it seems, but not sure how many, as there was another couple of the same surnames.
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    Default Re: S/L Ambrose May 1944

    I am sure his Logbooks are at RAF Hendon

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    Default Re: S/L Ambrose May 1944

    Franek,
    Paul is correct. The RAF Museum London 2007 list of Flying Logbooks was made available by a member here several years ago and I kept a copy.

    The List includes one entry for S/Ldr CF Ambrose:
    "Accession no MF10018/1
    Title: Pilot's flying log book of Sqdn Ldr C.F. Ambrose, 1940-1946
    Maker: Charles Ambrose
    Prodn date: 28 May 1940-31 December 1946."

    Although the Museum has re-opened for booked visits, the Research Dept "remote enquiry" service (ie email, presumably) is suspended until 1 April 2024.
    However, their page says it rather differently...
    "For enquiries about collection items or to make an appointment to carry out your own research in the Museum’s Reading Room at our London site, please email us at readingroom@rafmuseum.org"
    https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/contact...tments-london/

    In earlier years I've found their response and charges for paper copies of Flying Log Books both timely and reasonably priced.
    Perhaps by now digital copies might be possible - save them a lot of labour.

    The pdf list is from 2007: may have been updated in the years since.
    Happy to email a copy if of use to you.
    Last edited by Don Clark; 8th September 2023 at 23:21.
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    Default Re: S/L Ambrose May 1944

    Thanks, indeed it seems they are there!
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