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    Top right. After the text ‘Type Merlin XLV there is the number 67319.

    Bottom middle. There is an A number 280002.



    https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...engine-numbers


    Andy.
    The A prefix is the Air Ministry contract number, the other is the Rolls-Royce engine number, which is always an odd number on right-hand rotation Merlins. Both numbers are unique to that particular engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmcmillan View Post
    So a Merlin XLV actually the Merlin 45 ?

    I don't know when RR changed from using Roman numerals - but if they did then it might suggest an early engine 20 MM cannon suggest a Spitfire VB - So maybe around 1941/1942 timescale

    Hi Paul

    Im assuming that the XLV relates as Merlin type 45.

    Just going by the text on the plate.

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyffe View Post
    David,

    You might like to try the Key Aero website (https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-aviation) which has a number of contributors who revel in your type of inquiry. The website has undergone a complete (unnecessary) makeover during the last 12-18 months, much to the dismay of all who use it. Despite this requests for help, such as yours, usually bring a response, see for example https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...ication-please .

    Good luck in your search.

    Brian

    Thank you Brian, I will give this a try

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmcmillan View Post
    Also a general location of where Spitfire was found may help identification
    At the moment I can only say Normandy.

    This is an ongoing archaeological investigation which has recently started.

    More information to come...

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    Yes - I can't find any Merlin Engine Cards for the Mark 45 - So don't know if they say XLV or 45 (Roman XLV =- Arab 45)



    I can tell you that

    Merlin XII 11723 (A140950) Spitfire P7386

    Merlin III 13769 (A143668) Spitfire P9374

    Merlin III 19407 (A144641) -- Contract No 974105/38 (1938), and also an order No 4950,

    Merlin III 30363 (Axxxxxx) Spitfire X4276

    Merlin XX xxxxx (A242414) Lancaster L7535 24 Jan 1942 ToC 15-12-41
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A219976) Lancaster L7535 24 Jan 1942


    Merlin XX xxxxx (A242265) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942) Toc 11-01-42
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A254833) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A250510) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A242180) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942)

    Merlin XX xxxxx (A250592) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942) Toc 24-12-41
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A219506) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A250598) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A252355) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942)

    Merlin XLV 67319 (A280002) Spifire ?

    Merlin 66 xxxxx (A445219) Spitfire JF840 LF.VIII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmcmillan View Post
    Yes - I can't find any Merlin Engine Cards for the Mark 45 - So don't know if they say XLV or 45 (Roman XLV =- Arab 45)



    I can tell you that

    Merlin XII 11723 (A140950) Spitfire P7386

    Merlin III 13769 (A143668) Spitfire P9374

    Merlin III 19407 (A144641) -- Contract No 974105/38 (1938), and also an order No 4950,

    Merlin III 30363 (Axxxxxx) Spitfire X4276

    Merlin XX xxxxx (A242414) Lancaster L7535 24 Jan 1942 ToC 15-12-41
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A219976) Lancaster L7535 24 Jan 1942


    Merlin XX xxxxx (A242265) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942) Toc 11-01-42
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A254833) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A250510) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A242180) Lancaster L7542 (7 Feb 1942)

    Merlin XX xxxxx (A250592) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942) Toc 24-12-41
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A219506) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A250598) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942)
    Merlin XX xxxxx (A252355) Lancaster L7538 (20 Feb 1942)

    Merlin XLV 67319 (A280002) Spifire ?

    Merlin 66 xxxxx (A445219) Spitfire JF840 LF.VIII.

    Thank you for your help Paul

    David

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    https://imgur.com/gallery/MW6t5kE

    Here is a photo of the Merlin type XLV after a little clean up.

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    To add another data point on the merlins, recently we had the Moradabad Hurricane with

    Merlin XX, identity numbers 42639/A219867,

    The Data Plate said

    TYPE MERLIN XX No.-42639
    RIGHT HAND TRACTOR
    A 219867


    for the above.. Henk Wadman on ABIX had posted

    I am in the process of sorting some Spitfire engine numbers so enquired with Ian Craighead at Rolls-Royce Derby and apparently Merlin XX 42639 was manufactured at Glasgow 10/11/1941 it was despatched to an unknown destination on the 17/11/1941 and later recorded as written off. And that’s all the information he has.

    the folks on ABIX can probably add more on this?

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    Jagan that match is good it helps date the Lanc Merlin XX

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    Default Re: Spitfire Located in Normandy

    Found a few more

    Hurricane IIC

    BN563 - Merlin XX 83467 / A336695 (Install Date 15-3-45) - Accident 25-6-45
    LB800 - Merlin XX 29993 / A189625 - - Accident 1945-06-02
    LB935 - Merlin XX 351760 / 104025 (Switched?) - Accident 1945-02-18
    LB606- Merlin XX 103419 / 351457 - Accident 1944-05-05
    LB720 - Merlin XX 351468/103444 (Switched?)- Accident 1944-06-15
    LD723 - Merlin XX 137065/415871 - Accident 1944-08-25
    LE346 - Merlin XX 13821 ((Missing a Digit?) /416749 - Accident 1944-07-13
    KZ486 - Merlin XX 96971 / 350233 - Accident 1944-11-08
    LE807- Merlin XX 140531/417604 - Accident 1944-11-28
    ??672 - Merlin XX 100552/393071 - Accident 1945-08-28 Install Date 1945-02-15
    ??361 - Merlin XX 57063/276444 - Accident 1945-09-19
    LE950 Merlin XX ??????/417917 - Accident 1945-02-17

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