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    Hi,
    I am looking into the career of 33212 G/C Phillip Milne ASTLEY who served in Coastal Command (48 Sqn?) during WW2, he has a write up on the website RAFWEB.ORG, does anybody have membership to this site and if so would they be kind enough to look him up for me?

    many thanks, Rick

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    Hi Rick

    I have checked the entry on RAFWEB and it is as follows

    Personal details College details RAF Details Comments
    Philip Milne ASTLEY (33212) He entered the RAF College in 1934, was a member of C Sqn. He also represented the college in Soccer and Boxing. He was commissioned on 1 Aug 1936 in the rank of Pilot Officer which was gazetted on 15 Sep 1936. He retired on 15 Dec 1949 in the rank of Gp Capt.

    Not entirely helpful but I will try to look further

    HTH

    Mike

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    Hi, many thanks, there is a possibility he served with 48 sqn in 1940 but I can find no reference to him in the ORBs. Is there any way to find out what his aircrew role was, he is gazetted as GD branch?
    cheers,
    Rick

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    Hi Rick
    I would be very surprised if he was not a GD Pilot.
    I believe he was posted to 220 sqn from Cranwell - so presumably to fly Ansons.
    AFAIK - the RAF was not training many other aircrew 'trades' at that time for commissioned officers,the RAF was woefully short of Observers/Navigators at the start of WW2.
    Navigation was usually done by the 2nd Pilot if carried or sometimes by a volunteer non commissioned ground tradesman acting as Observer,similar to volunteer Air Gunners.

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    Hi Rick

    Looking at his six entries in the London Gazette none of them are for medals. This would seem unlikely for a Group Captain who had been flying. Most likely he was purely ground based especially if there is no mention in the ORBs. I will look further though

    Mike

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    Thanks, I have managed to ind him in the ORB for March 1940 as a Pilot flying convoy escorts... so at least I have something to work from, thanks again for the help,
    Rick

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvs View Post
    Hi Rick
    I would be very surprised if he was not a GD Pilot.
    I believe he was posted to 220 sqn from Cranwell - so presumably to fly Ansons.
    AFAIK - the RAF was not training many other aircrew 'trades' at that time for commissioned officers,the RAF was woefully short of Observers/Navigators at the start of WW2.
    Navigation was usually done by the 2nd Pilot if carried or sometimes by a volunteer non commissioned ground tradesman acting as Observer,similar to volunteer Air Gunners.
    Hello,

    Re: Initial posting of P/O Philip Milne ASTLEY RAF from RAF College, Cranwell:

    From, The Times. Thursday, Sept. 17, 1936. p.8 (Issue 47482):

    R.A.F. APPOINTMENTS.

    The following appointments in the Royal Air Force are notified:- GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.

    PILOT OFFICERS.__ The following are posted to the units shown on appointment to permanent commissions from the Royal Air Force College, Cranwell, with effect from Aug. 1 :__ P. M. ASTLEY, G. BURGES, W. H. INGLE, and C. D. S. SMITH, to School of Air Navigation, Manston.

    and ...

    From, The Times. Thursday, Dec. 10, 1936. p.6 (Issue 47554):

    R.A.F. APPOINTMENTS.

    The following appointments in the Royal Air Force are notified:__ GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.

    PILOT OFFICERS.__ J. H. CRESWELL, G. E. FORD, H. W. A. SHEAHAN, P. M. ASTLEY, W. H. INGLE, C. D. S. SMITH, to No. 220 (General Reconnaissance) Squadron, Bircham Newton (Nov. 29).

    Col.
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    Phillip Milne ASTLEY
    Birth: 27 Nov 1915 Bolton, Lancashire, England
    Death: Sep 2002 Fleetwood, Lancashire, England

    I believe he was living around Wilmslow, Cheshire, England when he died

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    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hello,



    The following appointments in the Royal Air Force are notified:__ GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.

    PILOT OFFICERS.__ J. H. CRESWELL, G. E. FORD, H. W. A. SHEAHAN, P. M. ASTLEY, W. H. INGLE, C. D. S. SMITH, to No. 220 (General Reconnaissance) Squadron, Bircham Newton (Nov. 29).

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    Hi Col
    Looks like PM Astley was posted to 'C' Flight on 220 Sqn but then 'C' Flight was used to form the nucleus of 269 Sqn so in effect he possibly went straight to 269 Sqn wef 29 nov 1936.

    And just to clarify that at that time Coastal Command Pilots did attend the Navigation Course as there were few Observers or Navigators at that time in the RAF.

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    Hi Rick

    All you had to do was ask me

    Malcolm (rafweb.org)

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