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    Default Martin Baltimore VI -- what are the sources?

    I am looking for references, in archival documents in the US or UK or in published sources about the story of the Martin Baltimore VI.

    This was the last version of the Baltimore to fly, in early 1944. It was incorporated the “hose nose” radome for the AN/APS-2 or 3 radar, more familiar on some US PBJ-1s used in an anti-shipping role in the Pacific. Only two prototypes were built.

    The origin of this design appeared to be in 1942-43, including the fighting in the Aegean, when the British would use Baltimores for single-ship armed reconnaissance missions against German inter-island shipping. Some of these ended badly when Bf 109s from JG 27 showed up, making a night capability valuable to enhance survivability. By 1944, the remaining Baltimores were engaged in conventional bombing missions, especially in Italy. As more capable bombers became available, they were replaced, with some going to the Italian Co-Belligerent Air Force’s Stormo Baltimore.

    Whose idea was this? Who decided that the design was no longer needed? The RAF? The manufacturer? Did the testing work out? Would there have been enough radars for production?

    All of this would be interesting to know. It's a marginal version of an often overlooked aircraft (of which I have fond memories of the FROG kit of many years ago). So if anyone has any input where its story might be found, I would be most grateful.
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    David isby

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    David:

    According to Phil Butler in Air Arsenal North America, the Mark VI was proposed for general reconnaissance with RAF maritime squadrons in the Mediterranean with 900 hundred ordered only to be cancelled in March 1944. Allocated RAF serials were HA100-999, c/ns 10085 to 10984 and corresponding USAAF serials 44-15803 to -16702 (A-30C). The prototype Mark VI, FW289, was released from trials at Martin's Baltimore plant and passed to the US Navy for aerodynamic tests of experimental aerofoils.

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    David,
    The following is from "Martin Aircraft 1909-1960" (Breihan, Piet and Mason) ISBN 0-913322-03-2.
    "Late in 1943 Martin equipped two Mark Vs with nose radomes as prototypes for a A-30C/Baltimore VI GR maritime reconnaissance version.. It was to no avail. The whole Model 187 program was cancelled in April 1944."
    There are captioned photographs of the Baltimore VI prototype FW289 and of the U.S. Navy's BU.09804 which according the the Baugher serial site was ex FW289.
    No indication of the identity on the other Mark V with a nose radome.
    If you would like scans of the relevant photographs and and text send me a PM.
    Tony Broadhurst

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    And the same book reference plus a photo of FW289 here:

    https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thr...6/#post-459937

    Robert
    Last edited by robstitt; 29th May 2021 at 12:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    Many thanks to all who responded.
    There does need to be a book (or at least an Osprey) on the Baltimore and its predecessor the Maryland, especially as none of either type survived (though there have been mentions of a recoverable Maryland).

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    Default Re: Martin Baltimore VI -- what are the sources?

    Hi David, Perhaps it could be your next one.

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