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    Default Re: More POW Conundrums

    Peter,
    1153724 John Alistair Timmis, commissioned 17/4/41, number 63837, LG 9/5/41.
    Regards, Mark.

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    Fg Off John Kenneth Duldey - John Kenneth Dudley, b. February 3rd 1915 as per WO416.

    1027902 Flt Sgt John Tyler Chodon - John Tyler Seddon, b. September 22nd 1920 as per WO416. Confirmed in air 78/141. That's some typo...!

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    Hello,

    Re: 1153724 John Alistair TIMMIS (63837) RAFVR:

    19 August, 1941.
    No.111 Sqn.
    Spitfire IIa P7824

    Sweep. FTR evening.

    P/O J. A. Timmis - POW - Stalag Luft III.

    See: FCL1(rev.ed.)/134.

    Timmis was later OC, No.605 (County of Warwick) Sqn, RAF (1 August 1949 - 24 September 1951).

    Apparently, Timmis' logbook is available for perusal:

    https://allspitfirepilots.org/pilots/309-ja-timmis

    Col.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resmoroh View Post
    I feel it is incumbent upon me to issue a Health/Safety Warning for this one. It should only be attempted by Senior/Advanced Researchers!

    622115 AC1 John Stanley Brooks, RAF, 75 Sqdn, a/c R3157, Camp 357 #50392 (from our G/sheet).
    622115 Sgt John Stanley Brooks, RAF, POW 1940-05-25, location Crete, Stalag Luft Barth 2 #50392. (from WO416)
    622115 W/O John Stanley Brooks, RAF, POW 1940-05-25, location Tournai, Stalag XXB Marienburg #50392 (from WO416).

    Fairly rapid promotion! Tournai and Crete are about 2400km/1300nm apart!
    Hi Peter,

    Has there been a typo somewhere? WO 416's entries for Brooks both have Date of Capture = 25 May 1940, Theatre of Capture = Tournai
    https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C16587487
    https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C16592029

    My uneducated assumptions are:-
    Shot down by flak as an AC, initially held at Stalag 357 (Kopernikus, Poland)
    Belatedly promoted Sgt as he was aircrew. Transferred to Stalag Luft 1 (Barth, Germany)
    Towards the end of the war in Stalag XXB (Marienburg, Poland)

    HTH,

    Jeff

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    Hello All,
    Thanks for all the help - much appreciated! There are typos, and then there are TYPOS!!!

    Jeff, Your assumptions are exactly the same as mine, but I wanted somebody else, with more knowledge of this subject than me, to go down the same road. Presumably "Crete" was a transcription error that had crept in from somewhere else (there are a lot in this chunk of WO416!!!). And how did these guys know they'd been promoted? Did the Camps have SROs, with the POR appendix?

    Tks again all,
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    Re Plt Off John Couran, Royal Air Force, Stalag VI, #455. Nothing further known.

    “ Date of Birth: 26 September 1914.
    Place of Birth: Esher, Surrey.
    Service: Royal Air Force.
    Rank: Pilot Officer.”

    Trouble i have for this one is apparently Stalag VI was for NCO not officers

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwrsimon View Post
    Peter

    (??????) Sgt Harry Jattes - this may be Sgt. Harry JAMES of Shipley, who was reported missing in the Yorkshire Evening Post of April 22nd 1942.

    WO416 has a discrepancy with his date of birth - it gives his D.o.B. as June 22nd 1901, London, and I think he's on the 1939 Register at Shipley with D.o.B. July 22nd 1913.

    That could make him 1378221 Harry James, on Wellington X3722, shot down April 22 1942:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=X3722

    All a bit thin I'm afraid...!

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    Simon

    hi I can add to this story . Flight sergeant Harry James 1378221 was my grandad. Born Shipley in 1913. Moved
    to Doncaster before the war and met my grandma etc etc.
    Unfortunately for grandad after crashing on a raid to Essen, then spending 3 years in stalagluft 1 he came home , returned to work on the railways and was killed by a train in 1945/1946 (when my mother was 3 it’s a bit sketchy) I’ll add a photo when I go up to my mums.
    Added : also should mention he was a tail gunner on the Wellington and I wonder if the aircraft crashed nose first hence why he was the only survivor
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    Default A Few More Missing POWs

    Hello All,
    Herewith today’s POWs that do not fit properly!

    ?????? Sgt Josef Cliesy, POW at Neufchateau, Belgium, POW #7973. Nothing else known. The Surname might suggest Eastern European origins?

    ?????? Lindlay Stuart Breliuer, Royal Air Force. Nothing else known. The Forenames have an English/Scottish ring? The Surname Western Europe – France/Benelux???

    Flt Lt Maurice Boydell, RAAF, Oflag XC Lubeck, #1786.
    I thought this one would be easy, but Maurice Grant Boydell turns out to be a Lt (QX6141) in the Oz 1 A/Tank Regt (https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/). Now – he might have been Supernumerary Crew aboard an RAF AOP, and about his proper business. In which case he should be ”Included In”. But it might be that he is just a transcription typo. In which case he should be “Included Out”. What do you want me to do?

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    Peter

    Flt Lt Maurice Boydell, RAAF, Oflag XC Lubeck, #1786 - Maurice Grant Boydell's Service File is on the naa.gov.au website. He was posted missing on May 5th 1941, and recorded as a P.o.W at Sofia on May 22nd. He was at Oflag 6B, Oflag 7B, Oflag 7F and Oflag 8F, and his P.o.W. number was indeed 1786. He returned to the UK in April 1945. He was captured (on the ground!) in Greece whilst with 1 Anti Tank Regiment.
    He has a J1795 file which records him serving with 'R.A.A.' (Royal Australian Artillery) which may have caused the confusion with R.A.A.F.?

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    Peter

    The other two are proving tricky, however:

    Sgt Josef Cliesy, POW at Neufchateau, Belgium, POW #7973 - a possible match:

    Sgt. Joseph Patrick CLEARY 1454243, Camp L6. In WO 416 'Cliesy' has a D.o.B. of July 9th 1919 at Leeds, and there's a Joseph Patrick Cleary, birth registered Hunslet, registered July/Aug/Sept 1919...?

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