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    Name: William Monat. Date of Birth: 16/07/1920. Place of Birth: Ganges Salt Springs Island British Columbia Canada.

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    Plt Off William Ivan MOUAT (J/17084) Typhoon IB EJ966 1943-07-11 198 Sqdn 1783 Stalag Luft L3 Sagan and Belaria

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    Hi Peter

    Fg Off William Monat, RCAF/RAAF. NFK
    WO 416 gives us a DoB of 16 Jul 20 and a birth place of Salt Spring Island, BC. This led me to William Ivan MOUAT, born on this date on Salt Spring Island, BC. That led me here

    "When the Second World War started in 1939 there was again an up serge in commercial activity and employment. Son Ivan was attending Normal School in Victoria and wanted to enlist at once. However his mother and I insisted that he obtain his certificate so that if and when he graduated he would have something tangible to start from on his return. He obtained his wings at Yorkton Saskatchewan in 1940 from the RCAF and was assigned to flying the heavy Hawker Typhoon whose job was to attack and destroy barges, railways and other targets in Belgium and Holland. On the last of his forages he was attacked by two German planes and struck with some shrapnel and had to bail out at 900 feet, the minimum for safety. With the aid of the parachute he was able to land safely. The Belgian peasants tried to give him shelter but the Germans knew that a pilot was down and he was soon picked up and interned at Stalag Luft 3 for nearly two years"

    And from 'The Typhoon & Tempest Story' (Shores/Thomas) we have:-
    Typhoon EJ966 of 198 Squadron, lost on 11 Jul 43

    He is also shown as writing off Typhoon R7648 on 28 Aug 42 as part of 56 Squadron.

    Seems like a likely candidate. Phew!

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    Thanks to all for your help. It's a long, slow, process - but with this sort of Forum effort we might get somewhere near the truth (or am I being a bit too hopeful??)!
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    Hello again

    138121 Cpl Murray MacHenpie - from the Civil Registration Death Index, MacKenzie Murray, b. 27th November 1920, d. 1983 registered Reading & Wokingham. WO416 has the same D.o.B.
    Air 78 has MURRAY Mackenzie 1318121.

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    One more:

    Capt Raymond Jamieson (3642), RCAF, Stammlager 344 - from ancestry.co.uk John Raymond Jamieson, b. December 27th 1908, Halifax, Nova Scotia, as per WO416.

    Possibly Wellington X9630? See: http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ls/r/C16756977

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    And another:

    Sgt Reginald Neroman - must be 545082 Reginald Graham NEWMAN, born June 18th 1918 (from the Civil Registration Death Index) which ties in with WO416. He was on board Stirling R9264:

    https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/52190

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    A possible:

    Reimund Mailoux, Air Force, Dulag Luft Oberursel #157 - Fold3.com has an draft registration card for Raymond Joseph MAILLOUX, b. July 1st 1919 at Lynn, Massachusetts.
    WO416 has his D.o.B. as 07/01/1920 at Boston. If he's American, 07/01 could be July 1st, and Lynn is just NE of Boston...?

    There is also a Raymond A. Mailloux who was a P.o.W.:

    https://www.sonsoflibertymuseum.org/...m458774229.cfm

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    Another possible/probable:

    Sgt William England, RAAF - T/Sgt. William Powell "Hap' England, U.S.A.A.F., born October 15th 1910, Greenville, Texas. D.o.B. matches the entry on WO416, even if the 'Australian Air Force' bit is a red herring.

    From his entry on findagrave.com

    William P England was the flight engineer on the Mission Belle, a B-17 that ditched in the Rhine River on December 1, 1943. Seven of the ten airmen on board survived the German fighters, flak and crash. O.D. Tully the bombardier in his journal said this about England..."William P. (Hap) England had a busted ankle, chest wound and crease on the head. England was one of the most reckless, carefree, happy fellows I've ever met. Chatters like a monkey and made friends with everybody."
    According to Tully, "Hap" was a true westerner from Des Moines, New Mexico. The entire crew suffered wounds from flak, fighters and the crash. England would be with fellow airmen Tully, Roger Christensen and James Sweaney at Stalag Luft 1 in Barth,Germany. The other three Steve Carano, Charles Culver and C.A. Josephson would suffer through the hard times of Stalag XV11.


    B-17G-1-BO 42-31097:

    http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/5158

    https://hazy.home.xs4all.nl/MissionBelle.html

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    Well done all good collective effort most sorted now - Peter any possibility you can post a consolidated list of all outstanding WO416 ones that have not been solved thanks Paul ?

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    Paul,
    I think this is consolidated(!!) but there might be the odd one missing/surplus! And don't forget that the Names are Forenames first, Surnames last!! Dosen't make for easy checking when all the other lists are the other way round.
    I never did get the hang of pasting Excel to rafcommands so that it retains the spacings! (Jagan did try to teach me, but I fear my eyes glazed over fairly early on!!! LOL!

    NAME FORCE RANK S/N DoC Loc CAMP POW# DoD
    Clifton Kustrin Royal Air Force Sergeant [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] Stalag Luft 1 Barth [unspecified] [unspecified]
    George Jones Royal Air Force Sergeant [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] Stalag IVB Muhlberg 368 [unspecified]
    Georges Habik Royal Air Force Pilot Officer 64 Squadron [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    Glen Marshall Herrington Royal Air Force [American Air Force) Rank: 2nd Lieutenant NULL Royal Air Force [American Air Force) Service Number: 0728210 NULL 03-Jan-43 [unspecified] Stalag IXC Bad Sulza 42693 [unspecified]
    Gordon Beesum Royal Air Force Sergeant [unspecified] 7904031 [unspecified] [unspecified] Stalag XXII A Linburg s d Lahn 76338 [unspecified]
    Harry Burton [Royal Air Force] Flying Officer [unspecified] 39336 [unspecified] [unspecified] Dulag Luft Barth 240 [unspecified]
    Harry Wilson Charristford Royal Air Force [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] 360956 [unspecified]
    Johann Harris Royal Air Force Leading Mechanic [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    John Couran Royal Air Force Pilot Officer [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] Stalag VI 455 [unspecified]
    Josef Cliesy Royal Air Force Sergeant [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] Neufchateau, Belgium [unspecified] 7973 [unspecified]
    Murray MacHenpie Royal Air Force Corporal [unspecified] 138121 [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    Myrdolin Davis [Royal Air Force] ? Rank: [unspecified] NULL [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    Nylor Meamen Royal Air Force Flying Officer [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    Percy Edmond ? Date of Birth: 26/02/1917 Royal Air Force Lieutenant [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] Vlissingen [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    Reimund Mailoux Air Force [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] NULL Dulag Luft Oberursel 157 [unspecified]
    Thomas Edmund Royal Air Force Flying Officer [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    William Aieginald Royal Air Force Sergeant [unspecified] 10210 [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    William England Australian Air Force Sergeant [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]
    Y Barratt Royal Air Force Pilot Royal Air Force [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified] [unspecified]

    (I await invitations (to precisely what is not said!!!) from the MacHenpie clan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HTH
    Peter Davies
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