Aircraft Losses Database Corrections

[Ross_McNeill]

P8829 was the Oxford on 24th Sept 1940

Ross

[Andy Marden]

HE792 was the Wellington on 28 Nov 43

[Andy Marden]

MZ422 was the Halifax on 14 Feb 45

[Jagan]

Can members take a look at this worksheet "Dupes"

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1057309456

Essentially single seater serials with two deaths linked to them. Please use the Forum Comment column or even reply to this thread here

BP503	Hurricane	Sykes Correct, Wallance to be corrected?	BP503
V6665	Hurricane I	Duplicate AIR81 Entries	V6665
P2562	Hurricane I	TJ Edwards right by AIR81. Other to be corrected	P2562
V6870	Hurricane I	Dual AIR81 Entries need investigation	V6870
W9151	Hurricane I	Reeves correct.. Kitcherside? Airscrew?	W9151
V6944	Hurricane I	Duplicate accidents	V6944
HL718	Hurricane II	Incorrect Type? attributed to two cremen	HL718
HL981	Hurricane II	Requires Investigation	HL981
BD924	Hurricane IIB	Burns to be corrected to BD5??	BD924
ET855	Kittyhawk	Investigate	ET855
MD335	Spitfire	Requires Validation.	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=MD335
MH487	Spitfire	Review DJ Campbell	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=MH487
NH489	Spitfire	Cousinou right Tomlinson's Spit?	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=NH489
BP930	Spitfire	Requires Review	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=BP930
MH560	Spitfire	Gow/Richardson - Requires Review	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=MH560
EN141	Spitfire	Hamlyn is right - AB Hill is incorrect	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=EN141
N3059	Spitfire Ia	Coddington right - veasy in AIR81	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=N3059
X4421	Spitfire Ia	Needs Investigation - Sloan X4421 - Rebuilt agin?	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=X4421
P8095	Spitfire IIa	Requires Review	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=P8095
P7750	Spitfire IIa	Requires Review	http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=P7750
P7888	Spitfire IIa	Dual Life Issue - Review	7888
P7843	Spitfire IIa	Requires Review	P7843
MK576	Spitfire LFIX	Young Correct - Malcolm ORD to be removed	MK576
EP840	Spitfire VB	Requires Review	EP840
EN892	Spitfire VB	Requires	EN892
W3758	Spitfire Vb	Needs investigation	W3758
JL362	Spitfire Vc	IAC Campbell	JL362
JP936	Typhoon IB	mcGill and Champion investigate	JP936
EJ926	Typhoon

[Freshman]

Jagan,
Cornell FH723 of No.1 F.I.S. was w/o March 21, 1944.

[alieneyes]

Jagan,

http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=P7280

According to the Form 765 Cloutier was flying Spitfire BL830.

Dave

[paulmcmillan]

L1946 “ Hi Paul
I am good thank you.
In answer to your question both.
Obolensky died in a landing accident when the aircraft overturned and he broke his neck. 29-03-40.
Hayter was killed when the aircraft dived into the ground. 01-10-40.
Hope this helps Iain”

[SteveBrooking]

Both ORB and accident card agree that Sgt Antoni Bardecki was flying FB374 on 2/10/44 when it was lost. He was involved in formation practice and cine gun attacks. The aircraft went into a high speed dive and lost a wing in the pull-out. It was coded SZ-A.
Keep up the good work
Steve

[ColFord]

FD546

Mustang Ia

Investigate Flight Lieutenant Francis Robert NORMOYLE (420905)

F/L FR Normoyle RAAF (attached to HQ 35 (Recce) Wing) in Mustang Mk.IA FD546 A and F/L Szyszko PAF in Mustang Mk.IA FD481 C took off at 11.41 hrs to conduct a Tac/R covering the area Arnhem – Borculo – Bocholt – Kranenburg. The No.2, F/L Szyszko PAF, lost contact with the No.1, F/L Normoyle RAAF, in bad weather, visibility down to one mile at times and the cloud base varying between 400 and 600 feet. F/L Szyszko PAF broke through the cloud and proceeded on for a short while and found himself over an area where hundreds of shell bursts were observed. He re- established radio contact with F/L Normoyle RAAF who said “I don’t think we can find each other, return to base”. F/L Szyszko PAF turned for base and making contact with Flying Control advised them that F/L Normoyle RAAF was carrying on the sortie alone. Flying Control made repeated attempts to contact F/L Normoyle RAAF but he did not reply and was not heard from again. He was posted first ‘overdue’ and then listed as ‘missing’.





Details confirmed from Squadron ORBs, RAAF Casualty File - which includes 20MRES report confirming aircraft serial from tail section found near crash site, and Air Ministry Form 78. Also confirmed by other Squadron personnel on Squadron at time of loss in emails, correspondence and discussions.

Re Mell on 26 September 1943:

F/O Guy Pease in Mustang Mk.IA FD551 O and F/Sgt Walter Mell in Mustang Mk.IA FD533 G took off from Funtington at 11.00 hrs for a ‘Ranger’ train busting trip. They did not return. They had safely crossed in over the French Coast and had started looking for targets of opportunity along the railway line leading towards Rouen. They were getting close to Rouen when a possible target in the form of a train near a station was seen, and their attention was focussed on the ground. F/O Pease already has a score of around 34 trains from his previous sorties. The first intimation that something was wrong for F/O Guy Pease was when he saw wisps of smoke streaking over the top of his Mustang’s canopy and the top surfaces of his Mustang’s wings. They had been ‘bounced’ by a flight of at least six Focke-Wulf Fw-190s.





Aircraft were 'bounced' by FW-190s of I/JG2, Mell was shot down and killed, Pease shot down , crashed, injured in crash and made PoW at crash site. PoW until VE-Day. Details confirmed by Squadron ORBs, Air Ministry Form 78, Pilot's Log Book entries and eye witness account by F/O Pease.

(The 'other source' on FD533+Normoyle is a flight simmers website that in oder to provide an interesting backstory for a profile they wanted to post 'blended' Normoyle's details with those of FD533 - a piece of creative artistry but totally inaccurate - found in Google searches on Mustang FD533.)

[Andy Marden]

With thanks to Spitfire guru Andrew Pentland, Thomas Ibbotson (BS104) was actually killed in a motorcycle accident, as related at:
http://aircrewremembered.com/ibbotson-thomas-karl.html
Uttley was the pilot of BS104, as clearly stated in the ORB.