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    Default Junkers Ju 188 - crashed near Withyham, East Sussex, on 24th February 1944.

    Dear All,
    I know that this may be outside the bounds of the Forum, but would any of you have any further details on this crashed German aircraft. At present, all I know is that definitely two of the crew died. Gerhard Wutzig and Albert Hessmann are both buried in the German Cemetery in Staffordshire. I would like to know which unit they served with, who any survivors may have been, and how the aircraft came down.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Best wishes
    James

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    Default Re: Junkers Ju 188 - crashed near Withyham, East Sussex, on 24th February 1944.

    James

    According to the Kracker Archive:

    Ju 88A-4 Werk # 710409 "3E + PS" of 8/KG6
    Shot down by a Mosquito of No. 29 Sq., piloted by P/O Pargeter; [Wutzig and] one other KIA and two POW, all unnamed


    https://aircrewremembered.com/Kracke...rch_type=exact

    See also: https://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sh...377#post137377

    Regards

    Simon
    Researching R.A.F. personnel from the North East of England

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    Default Re: Junkers Ju 188 - crashed near Withyham, East Sussex, on 24th February 1944.

    Dear Simon,
    That was incredibly quick, and a perfect answer.
    Your help is very much appreciated.
    Best wishes
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    Default Re: Junkers Ju 188 - crashed near Withyham, East Sussex, on 24th February 1944.

    James,

    "The Last Blitz" Mackay/Parry (Red Kite) pg 190

    Fw Gerhard Wudzig EKI (F) Killed (CC 9/44); Uffz. Albert Hessmann EKI (B) Killed (CC 9/44); Uffz Eberhard Wulf (Bf) (POW) and Obgefr Albert Grundler EKI (Bs) (POW). The last two bailed out while the pilot and observer 's bodies were found in the wreckage.

    Markings - P in black outlined in red. Black undersides, sides of fuselage and top wing surfaces were olive green with greeny grey wavy lines superimposed. On the lower half of the fin and rudder the wavy lines were a blue grey. (Presume that this is taken from an ADI (K) report although there is no direct reference in the text.)

    Hope that this is of help.
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    Default Re: Junkers Ju 188 - crashed near Withyham, East Sussex, on 24th February 1944.

    Hi James,

    Just to add to the story, they were shot down by F/L E Barry & F/O G Hopkins of 29 Sqn.That is from ‘The Blitz Then & Now’ p343.

    Cheers,

    John.

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    Default Re: Junkers Ju 188 - crashed near Withyham, East Sussex, on 24th February 1944.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Williams View Post
    Hi James,

    Just to add to the story, they were shot down by F/L E Barry & F/O G Hopkins of 29 Sqn.That is from ‘The Blitz Then & Now’ p343.

    Cheers,

    John.
    Interesting John, Mackay/Parry attribute this loss to Pargeter.

    and on pg 192 there is a claim by F/Lt Barry (also of 29 Sqdn) "for an "Me 410" probably destroyed off Beachy Head at 22.28 hrs. A searchlight crew at Beachy Head reported something burning on the sea between Eastbourne Pier and Beachy Head."

    There are several other claims by 29 Sqdn that night plus claims by 85, 96, 488 Sqdns and the FIU. Several of these claims are for Ju 88s and Ju 188s.
    Best Regards
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    Default Re: Junkers Ju 188 - crashed near Withyham, East Sussex, on 24th February 1944.

    Thank you, Simon, Andy and John,
    This is all fantastic information.
    A few days ago I was told by a local resident that a German aircraft crashed during the war, and that the crew were buried in the churchyard. He did not know when it happened, who the crew were, or any other information.
    Within only a short period of time, they have been identified, plus so much more.
    The casualties were moved to the German Cemetery in Staffordshire in the 1960s.
    You have all helped in preserving a part of our local history.
    Thank you

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