420708 - Unaccounted airman - 8-7-1942

**dennis_burke** · 30th November 2018, 11:29

Hello Wesley

welcome. to the forum.

Pretty much everything that can be gleaned for free from the internet is presented above. if you view his entry on the CWGC website, and view the Grave Registration Scan near the page bottom, https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/c...rawford-allen/

You will see that he was posted to 21 OTU at that time. That's an Operational Training Unit, and was training crews for Bomber Command: http://www.rafweb.org/Organsation/OTU_1.htm

To learn anything more, you will need to obtain his RAF service record, which as he died during the war, you will be entitled to received a truncated copy of for if I recall, UK£30. See
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military...-elses-records

The OTU's were second line units, and larger than a bomber squadron and their day to day diary records do not record individuals or individual crew flights, so there may be a mention of him due to the accident, but beyond that, I wouldn't expect to find him mentioned therein.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ils/r/C4100374

best bet is his service record and death certificate, sadly!

From the above, you know how he died, where he died, what he was doing in the RAF at the time (roughly).

I hope this helps

**jonheyworth** · 10th August 2021, 10:20

Samuel Henry Miller 81016 ( a Flight Lieutenant with effect from 26 May, ) was dangerously injured at 09:15 hours in a flying accident involving Lysander W7410. Admitted to an RAF Hospital, he died of his injuries at 19:00 hours

**jonheyworth** · 13th August 2021, 18:27

William Joseph Newman 1428464 , died in Number 57 General hospital peritonitis following an appendectomy

**malcolm_raf** · 22nd August 2021, 14:40

Hi Jon

"Samuel Henry Miller 81016 ( a Flight Lieutenant with effect from 26 May, ) was dangerously injured at 09:15 hours in a flying accident involving Lysander W7410?. Admitted to an RAF Hospital, he died of his injuries at 19:00 hours"

Are you sure it was a Lysander as W7410 wasn't issued and I had him in an unknown Hurricane?

Malcolm

**jonheyworth** · 22nd August 2021, 15:11

Hi Malcolm , that's What it said in the record, I know no more than that sorry. You're probably much more up on aircraft serials than myself !

**Jagan** · 22nd August 2021, 17:14

Originally Posted by malcolm_raf

Are you sure it was a Lysander as W7410 wasn't issued and I had him in an unknown Hurricane?

This got to be L4710

http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=L4710
(note the previous forum threads )

EDIT: Updated Miller's record to L4710 now.

**Andy Marden** · 22nd August 2021, 18:54

The only matter outstanding on L4710 is that most sources I can find say the aircraft crashed on 6 July 1942:
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...8560#post58560
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...656#post125656

**Jagan** · 22nd August 2021, 21:38

I am suspecting the crash happened on 6th and he died of wounds on the 8th. We need the F1180 here! Also SH Miller previously taken POW in ERitria flying Lysanders as per http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...ame=S+H+Miller