420801 - Unaccounted airwoman and airmen - 1-8-1942

[Henk Welting]

What were the places of death registration for:

A - Killed on active service:
LAC (Pilot u/t) Kenneth J. BARLTROP - 1396335, and
P/O (Pilot/Instr.) Edgar S. JENNER - 115849.

B - Died on active service:
ACW2 Esther GLOVER - 2062466 - RAF Tempsford, and
AC1 Sydney J. THOMPSON - 1515801 - age 38.

C - Not found in Flight archives:
F/Sgt Norman E. RAY - 517749, and
AC1 William J. ROGERS - 1273800 - age 29, who has a 'special memorial' at the Brandwood End Cemetery, Birmingham (missing in air raid ?).

D - Proposed aircraft losses:
Airspeed Courier - X9344 (ex. G-ACLR) - RAF Exeter - crashed on take-off Bolt Head.
Master III - W8598 - RAF Digby - crashed on landing Digby.
Master III - W8991 - CGS - crashed in forced landing Mains Farm, Pooley Bridge, Cumberland.
Tiger Moth II - T5670 - 4 EFTS - crashed on landing Brough.
Tiger Moth II - T7394 - 29 EFTS - spun into ground Wick Farm, Headington, Wiltshire.
Tiger Moth II - T7843 - 4 EFTS - crashed on landing Brough.
Havoc I - AH475 - 85 Sqn - crashed in forced landing Hunsdon.
Spitfire V.B - EP723 - RAF Abbotsinch - crashed Renfrew.
Tiger Moth II - DE320 - 26 EFTS - crashed on approach Theale.

Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Barltrop,20, and Jenner,30, registered at Wokingham, Berkshire, the right area for Theale so it might place them on DE920
CWGC has an Ethel Glover,19, and she is on the register age 19, at Biggleswade, Bedfordshire, the right area for Tempsford
I found 2 Sidney Thompson's (no other initial). One aged 49, registered at Scunthorpe, the other,age 35(closer to CWGC) registered in York. York is a puzzle as it was split up into several areas now in E Yorkshire and many just N of the River Humber. Geographically these cover Brough, just W of Hull, but it is not mentioned by name.
Rogers didn't come up
Regards
Dick

[dennis_burke]

there is a 26 year old Norman Ray, no middle name or initial registered in Oxford district, Q3.

A Norman E Ray was born in 1915 Q4.

[dennis_burke]

There is a 38 year old Sydney James Thompson registered sometime in 1942 in Hillhead district, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

I recalled that we had a Hillhead casualty in earlier in 1942 that we thought might be connected to the Radar station there:
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5792&highlight=hillhead

[Rich Allenby]

Henk,

Re - Master III - W8991

Michael Hurst's (of the Lake District book fame) mentioned this landed vertually intact and the crew were ok.

i will check on the Moth at Brough and get back to you, regards Rich

[Henk Welting]

What else can I say to my friends as THANKS !
Regards,
Henk.

[Rich Allenby]

Tiger Moth T7843 collided with Tiger Moth T5670 while coming into land at Brough. Ive no info to say the name or fate of the pilot/s.

Master W8991, As I thought, Hurst doesn't identify the aircraft but the date and location is the same. pilot "L R Disney" and "No injuries".

regards Rich

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Rich. Another question: Does Wroot (N.Yorkshire/Lincolnshire) belong to your "area of interest" ?
Regards,
Henk.

[dennis_burke]

F/Sgt N E Ray is listed DOAS oct 15th 1942 Flight magazine.

There is a James W Rogers age 29 registered in Birmingham district, its the Q3 register also.

[Rich Allenby]

Henk, Im abit late in spotting your posting.

yes Wroot is of interest if any air accident was inside Yorkshire.

can you recall why you asked this !!!

regards Rich