421114 - Unaccounted airwoman and airmen - 14-11-1942

[Henk Welting]

What were the places of death registration for:

A - Died on active service:
AC2 Thomas G. COONAN - 1037701;
ACW1 Gladys HEATH - 2061628, and
AC1 John W. SIDELL - 1826216.

B - Killed on active service:
F/O (Flying Instr.) Sydney TROUT - 89310.

C - Not found in Flight archives (sorry for the many !):
AC1 Albert E.E. BROWN - 1211702 - buried Wandsworth (Streatham) Cem. London (there is an A.E. BROWN in Flight listed as 'missing');
Sgt (Nav) Frederick S. FISHER - 1393458;
Sgt (WOp/Ag) George MAGUIRE - 1266020;
Sgt (WOp/Ag) John MALLETT - 1292768, and
P/O (Pilot) Trevor MASON - 125543.

D - Proposed aircraft losses:
Blenheim IV - Z6074 - 1 AGS - crashed in forced landing on beach at Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire.
Oxford I - N6334 - 14 (P)AFU - crashed in forced landing Skegby Farm, Normanton, Nottinghamshire.
Swordfish I - P4267 - 9 (P)AFU - crashed in forced landing Belhelvie Farm, Newburgh, Fifeshire.
Tiger Moth I - K4261 - 14 EFTS - collided (with another a/c ??) and crashed Lindridge Field, Hall Farm, near Desford.
Beaufort II - AW384 - 5(C)OTU - crashed 3 miles E of Girvan, Ayrshire (already as a casualty on this a/c: P/O [Pilot] M.C. JOLLY - NZ413858 and FOUR were killed in the incident).
Defiant I - AA426 - 19 MU - undershot landing St.Athan.

Regards and thanks for your help.
Help.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Ancestry has changed it's website and it is more difficult to find a specific name but here goes!!
Coonan,36, registered at Fylde ,Lancashire
Gladys Heath,23, registered at Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire
Sidell,22, registered at Welshpool, Montgomeryshire
Trout,38, registered at Market Bosworth,Leicestershire. Desford (K4261) is in the M Bosworth area
Maguire,30, registered at Aldershot, Hampshire
Mallett,22, registered at Anglesey West
Mason,20, registered at Grantham and W Kesteven, Lincolnshire
I couldn' find Brown or Fisher but there was an Albert E H Brown,18, registered at Essex S W
Warner's Blenheim records that W/O F McDaniel and crew were uninjured on Z6074
Regards
Dick

[davew]

In addition to Jolly in AW384 at Kilochan Castle the death register records the names of George Lunn, Frederick S Fisher and George Maguire.

regards

DaveW

[malcolm_raf]

Hi Henk

CWGC has Gladys Heath dying on 4 Nov not 14?

Malcolm

[COL BRUGGY]

Henk,

14-11-1942
9(P)AFU, Errol.
Swordfish I P4267

Engine failed, force-landed downwind, struck fence, nosed over a speed, Balhelvie Farm, Newburgh, Fife.

Sub-Lt P T Gifford - Unhurt.

See:
The Swordfish Story.
Sturtivant,Ray
London:Arms & Armour Press,1993.
p.182 (Appendix 3. Swordfish Losses).

Col.

[Henk Welting]

Thanks friends for all your help. For sure missing info on status and registration of remaining airmen may follow from Dennis once he has found more time.
Regards,
Henk.

[Henk Welting]

Info from Errol Martyn that Sgt (WOp/Ag) John MALLETT - 1292768 (death registered Anglesey West) was on board Anson DJ628 of 9 (O)AFU.
Regards,
Henk.

[dennis_burke]

I think the crew of AW384 were missed from the casualty listings, I cannot find Jolly under the RNZAF men for example.

Fisher, MaGuire, Lunn and Jolly on that aircraft. KOAS I'd guess.

The Sgt. A E Brown 'Missing' that you found is probably Sgt. A E Brown 1027778 of 103 Squadron buried in Holland.

were there other deaths in ANson DJ628 I wonder?

Just found Mallett and Mason! KOAS in the February 11th magazine:
Scanned as J. Mallet; P/O. J. W. Marshall; P/O. T.
Mason; P/O. F. Mayes; Set. R. E. Newsoo:
L.A/C. C. H. Nield; Sgt.

[Henk Welting]

[QUOTE=dennis_burke;41112]I think the crew of AW384 were missed from the casualty listings, I cannot find Jolly under the RNZAF men for example.


were there other deaths in ANson DJ628 I wonder?

Sgt (Pilot) Trevor M. BLAKEMORE - NZ413016 (14-11-1942);
P/O Keith CHARMAN - 126875 (14-11-1942);
Sgt John G. ('Ian') CAIRNS - 1550985 (14-11-1942), and
LAC (Obs u/t) SIMPSON, Reginald A. - 1498390 (13-11-1942).

Rgards,
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
None of the names you added in post 9 was in the England &Wales register
Blackmore is on Runnymede
Charman is in Chorley Vol 3 as lost on a Gardening op on Stirling R9201 of 15 Sqn on 6/11/42. He is buried with the rest of the crew in France
Cairns is also on Runnymede
Simpson may be a possible for the Anson as he was an Obs u/t and is buried in Pwllheli in Wales but is not on the register,
Edit:- with the correction of Simpson's first name,given in the next posts, Simpson,19, is registered at Pwllheli
Regards
Dick